
Talk:Alaska Travel Guide
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Why do we have an article about bears, which is a double redirect? Why do we need articles about whales, fish, foxes, and eagles? -phma 22:36, 31 Jan 2004 (EST)
Why shouldnt there be articles about wildlife which are key reasons for visiting alaska?
Uh, according to our goals and article policy, none of these things should be articles. Now if someone whanted to make an itinerary about seeing one of these animals in Alaska, that might be a possibility. Majnoona 23:39, 31 Jan 2004 (EST)
Just wondering if there should be another region to cover in between Central_(Alaska) (listed as around Fairbanks) and South-Central_(Alaska) which incorporates Ancorage southward. Thinking of where places like Denali / Talkeenta should go. I'm leaning more towards Central and perhaps making Denali a seperate region. - Arcae 06:40, 7 Feb 2005 (EST)
- I'd vote no...Southcentral Alaska is officially considered to be everything south of the Alaska Range and Interior Alaska is everything north of it. That would put Talkeetna in Southcentral and Denali, er, right on the border, I guess. (I'd place Denali in Interior.)
- Note that the terms "Southcentral" and "Interior" are the official ones as designated by the State of Alaska. Cluth 20:28, 28 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Transportation
Much of the section on getting in and getting around was copied from the Transportation section I wrote for the Wikipedia WikiPedia:Alaska article. I copied it directly from the history page that shows what I edited. Based on reading other discussion pages on WikiTravel, this appears to be legal and complies with both the GFDL and the CC Attribution-ShareAlike license. I also added some original information.
Much of the material is from that which I posted on Wikipedia's Alaska page. When copying it, I removed the Wiki links as most were not applicable here. As time allows, I'll study the article database of related articles to see what types of Wiki links you guys here on WikiTravel like, and then I'll go back through and Wikify the appropriate ones...unless someone beats me to it.
Cluth 20:14, 28 Apr 2005 (EDT)
- Great contributions, thanks! The rule of thumb is that place names should be linked the first time they are mentioned, but nothing else — unless it's a travel topic that happens to have an article. Jpatokal 20:41, 28 Apr 2005 (EDT)
- OK, so I'll go back in and wikify the city names like Homer, Palmer, etc. (My original article had a bunch of links to things like the Alaska Marine Highway System, the Iditarod, etc. (Surprisingly, the Wikipedia has a pretty extensive Alaska article collection! Most places ignore us...) I noticed that the Anchorage article is titled simply "Anchorage," presumably because we are the most famous Anchorage (there is an Anchorage, KY US, but how can there be when they're landlocked? :-) ). However, should I link other city names--especially to uncreated articles--as, say, "Palmer (Alaska)" (which is the format I've seen elsewhere on WikiTravel? How about towns with decidedly unique names, like Talkeetna? Should I link it as "Talkeetna (Alaska)" just to preserve consistency? Cluth 03:23, 29 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Edit Wars...Sort Of
I've noticed some adding and deleting in the External Links section with some comments about some being commercially oriented. (I'm not speaking of the recent spaming by 210.214.89.130.) There are a couple that I believe do fit with Wikitravel's external links policy. Might I clarify three links that I'd like to add or add back in, pending no objections:
- http://www.travelalaska.com: This is the Alaska Travel Industry Association's Web page. The Alaska Travel Industry Association was created by the State of Alaska to promote the tourist industry. It also serves as the travel industry's lobby. While the site ends in .com, it's not a commercial organization--as I said, it was created by the state government.
- http://www.anchorage.net: This is the Anchorage Convention & Visitors Bureau's site. It's a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting travel and tourism to Anchorage. They also create the most annoying TV/radio ads possible (picture animated moose singing "Wild! Wild about Anchorage! Wild about Anchoraaaaaaaage!" over and over while dancing New York, New York...), but that's beside the point.
- http://www.alaska.org: This is a nonprofit organization that prints good free guidebooks and produces a TV channel featured in many hotels. The site features tips on things to see and restaurant reviews done by local residents (primarily bellhops/concierges and other local down-in-the-gutter tourist industry folks), lending a very honest and knowledgeable feel.
- http://www.adn.com: The Anchorage Daily News is the primary newspaper for the state. They also operate http://www.alaska.com. While it is a commercial site, it's operated by a journalistic organization and might be useful.
Cluth 04:31, 31 Aug 2005 (EDT)
- Under the external links policy, the first link above can be put into Alaska#External links, the second can be put into Anchorage#External links (not the Alaska article), and the third and fourth should not be added. "Useful" and "Non-profit" are not exceptions to the policy. -- Colin 09:46, 31 Aug 2005 (EDT)
Regions
I am a big anti-fan of articles with names such as "North (Somewhere)". With rare exception, no one actually called these places "North"; they call them "North Somewhere" or "Northern Somewhere". And the region names for Alaska are inconsistent, which is another pet peeve. Along those lines, I'd like to rename a few of the region articles for Alaska as follows:
- Southeastern Alaska - as is
- South-Central (Alaska) -> Southcentral Alaska
- South-Western (Alaska) -> Southwestern Alaska
- Central Alaska - as is (though the semi-official Alaska Travel Industry Assoc. calls this Interior Alaska, which I kinda like)
- Arctic (Alaska) -> Arctic Alaska
Objections? - Todd VerBeek 22:58, 25 July 2006 (EDT)
- I vote yea. Same could be done for Arizona and several other places as well. -- Ryan 23:07, 25 July 2006 (EDT)
- Arizona's gonna be more work. But Alaska's been done. - Todd VerBeek 21:21, 27 July 2006 (EDT)